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	<title>Comments on: A response to the recent Newsweek article on Human Terrain System.</title>
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		<title>By: Abdullah Ichiqzai</title>
		<link>http://www.ethnography.com/2008/04/a-response-to-the-recent-newsweek-article-on-human-terrain-system/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah Ichiqzai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write, &quot;Thomas Johnson, an Afghan expert at the Naval Postgraduate School &quot;.  

Don&#039;t you expect that an Afghan expert is required to have lived in Afghans for atleast a year, have fluency in one of the native languages (Dari or Pashtu), and have completed graduate courses related to Afghanistan or have written his master&#039;s thesis on Afghanistan.  

Mr. Johnson has never lived in Afghanistan or Pakistan.  Occassional trips to Afghanistan or Pakistan to interview people don&#039;t suffix.  

Mr. Johnson has never spoken a word of Dari or Pashto.  Language is the gatekeeper to understand culture or a people.

Mr. Johnson never lists where he got his master&#039;s degree from. When you check the Naval Postgraduate School website you notice that crucial piece of information missing. He also does not correct people who assume he must have a prestigious PH.D. during meetings, conferences, seminars or when considering him for publications in peer reviewed journals.  By faking this Ph.D. perception he passes himself off as a doctorate trained expert on Afghanistan.

By very cautious of the sophmoric expert who does not have training, education, language abilities, faking his credentials.

The expert is usually a profound philosopher distinguished for wisdom and sound judgment, but Mr. Johnson does only quote Kipling literature when discussing Afghanistan and Pakistan. Kipling, the guy who wrote &quot;The White Man&#039;s Burden&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write, &#8220;Thomas Johnson, an Afghan expert at the Naval Postgraduate School &#8220;.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you expect that an Afghan expert is required to have lived in Afghans for atleast a year, have fluency in one of the native languages (Dari or Pashtu), and have completed graduate courses related to Afghanistan or have written his master&#8217;s thesis on Afghanistan.  </p>
<p>Mr. Johnson has never lived in Afghanistan or Pakistan.  Occassional trips to Afghanistan or Pakistan to interview people don&#8217;t suffix.  </p>
<p>Mr. Johnson has never spoken a word of Dari or Pashto.  Language is the gatekeeper to understand culture or a people.</p>
<p>Mr. Johnson never lists where he got his master&#8217;s degree from. When you check the Naval Postgraduate School website you notice that crucial piece of information missing. He also does not correct people who assume he must have a prestigious PH.D. during meetings, conferences, seminars or when considering him for publications in peer reviewed journals.  By faking this Ph.D. perception he passes himself off as a doctorate trained expert on Afghanistan.</p>
<p>By very cautious of the sophmoric expert who does not have training, education, language abilities, faking his credentials.</p>
<p>The expert is usually a profound philosopher distinguished for wisdom and sound judgment, but Mr. Johnson does only quote Kipling literature when discussing Afghanistan and Pakistan. Kipling, the guy who wrote &#8220;The White Man&#8217;s Burden&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.ethnography.com/2008/04/a-response-to-the-recent-newsweek-article-on-human-terrain-system/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for re-posting your comments, Tony--we have a good conversation going, and I hated to see it disappear.

Plus, I agree with everything you&#039;ve said, so I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t have to say it, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for re-posting your comments, Tony&#8211;we have a good conversation going, and I hated to see it disappear.</p>
<p>Plus, I agree with everything you&#8217;ve said, so I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t have to say it, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.ethnography.com/2008/04/a-response-to-the-recent-newsweek-article-on-human-terrain-system/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with assertions in several places in this discussion that translators are a good substitute for learning a language well, whether in the classroom, or on the street (or both).  Using a translator means that you tend to get to know the translator much better than the informant.  Learning a language and conversing yourself is always preferable to relying on a translator.   

      On the other hand, a good field assistant, many of whom know both languages also, is an outstanding resource to check interpretations and learn from.  But again, it is no substitute for the drudgery of language learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with assertions in several places in this discussion that translators are a good substitute for learning a language well, whether in the classroom, or on the street (or both).  Using a translator means that you tend to get to know the translator much better than the informant.  Learning a language and conversing yourself is always preferable to relying on a translator.   </p>
<p>      On the other hand, a good field assistant, many of whom know both languages also, is an outstanding resource to check interpretations and learn from.  But again, it is no substitute for the drudgery of language learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general tone of the Newsweek article calls into question how effective the overall design of the HTS program is.  The main problem is that in generating the original HTS project proposal, too much was promised.   Among the things promised were anthropologists who could speak exotic Iraqi languages &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; get US military security clearances, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; interact with locals &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the US military, etc.  The type of person the military hoped to hire simply does not exist—so they are doing the next best thing, and trying to create one through a training program.  From this perspective, getting a Ph.D. anthropologist with training in both cultural anthropology and archaeology does not sound like such a bad deal.

      Irrespective of the factual errors McFate points out, the basic flaws of the HTS program remain.  I think that in the long run, anthropology offers people in foreign affairs and the military a lot.  But what this story points out, is that there are many barriers in the cultures of the military and anthropology alike which restrict communication.  Even if HTS cannot do anything to mediate between Iraqi civilians and the US military, perhaps they can find a way to make foreign policy and military practice more cognizant of cultural issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general tone of the Newsweek article calls into question how effective the overall design of the HTS program is.  The main problem is that in generating the original HTS project proposal, too much was promised.   Among the things promised were anthropologists who could speak exotic Iraqi languages <i>and</i> get US military security clearances, <i>and</i> interact with locals <i>and</i> the US military, etc.  The type of person the military hoped to hire simply does not exist—so they are doing the next best thing, and trying to create one through a training program.  From this perspective, getting a Ph.D. anthropologist with training in both cultural anthropology and archaeology does not sound like such a bad deal.</p>
<p>      Irrespective of the factual errors McFate points out, the basic flaws of the HTS program remain.  I think that in the long run, anthropology offers people in foreign affairs and the military a lot.  But what this story points out, is that there are many barriers in the cultures of the military and anthropology alike which restrict communication.  Even if HTS cannot do anything to mediate between Iraqi civilians and the US military, perhaps they can find a way to make foreign policy and military practice more cognizant of cultural issues.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking into it.  I *think* our provider did some kind of restore on the site and we lost a day or so. I noticed editing changes I made to the post itself were at a previous version as well.

I&#039;ll keep making inquires.  In the meantime, if anyone that may on the off chance still have their comments please post them again and I will make sure they are appearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking into it.  I *think* our provider did some kind of restore on the site and we lost a day or so. I noticed editing changes I made to the post itself were at a previous version as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep making inquires.  In the meantime, if anyone that may on the off chance still have their comments please post them again and I will make sure they are appearing.</p>
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